On request of chief-editor Vittorio Busato, Hans-Jaap Moes published a column in the Journal of the Dutch Institute of Psychologists, March 2020, a special edition about forensic care. The column covers a “Zorgconferentie” (“Care-conference”), a multidisciplinary consultation meeting about a TBS forensic client. Together with the client, professional practitioners, stakeholders, external experts and his/her lawyer, the situation of a the client is discussed and a treatment plan formulated. Safety of society and individual ambitions are key themes. In 2019, 110 of such consultations took place. www.tijdschriftdepsycholoog/wat-doen-we-met-kevin/